Speaking about Poverty

11 January 2009

Day in and day out I swerve through Honduran shanty towns, isolated hovels, over exquisite landscapes and into ditches. I can’t open my eyes wide enough, and at the end of everyday I have more questions than the day before. The questions are complex and every one leads me down a rabbit hole. Its starts like this: To begin with, how do we really measure poverty here in Honduras? And once I identify the poor, I wonder, does Prisma reach the poorest of the poor? If not, is it enough that they reach the middle poor, and by virtue of growing small business opportunity, they grow opportunities for employment of the poorest of the poor? Given the global economic crisis, is encouraging debt responsible? Is it more important for the borrower to just feel less poor? Or is that just an enormously arrogant view? And once we move into the realm of feelings, we lose all measurements. But lets say we wanted to measure feeling poor, is that something we should do? And how? My head is swimming.

All my questions really crystallize as I write journal updates. Let me stop asking and begin.

Sometimes I meet people whose situation is dire. They live in garbage. As we drive up, dirty children come to greet us. Big, haunting stares. As we talk I find it hard to focus for the sheer quantity of flies in their open homes. This was the case of Doña Reina Marina Fernandez. She lives in a tiny isolated village. To get there I rode on the back of a motocycle for over two hours of dirt road. We stopped twice to push it through rivers and sludge. We arrive to find the majority of her property totally destroyed by the recent flooding that has decimated the southern region of Honduras. The flooding has changed the shape of her land and her oven is about to fall off a cliff. She is trying to figure out how to move it since she makes her business baking bread and other sweets.

Flooded Property

Flooded Property

Her smiling son of about 15 comes to greet us. I give him a hearty greeting just to find that he is mute. Like an idiot I say, “hello, how are you?” in sign language. First, signing in Spanish is as different as speaking in Spanish. Second, of course he didn’t go to sign language school. This person has no communicative ability, because he was never taught to talk. He smiles and gestures and Manuel, the saint of a loan officer that has been taking me around, understands him. Or pretends to. For several months this year, the flooding isolated this town. Most of the crops of every person, including Doña Reina, were destroyed and there is little to eat. They take the bus in now to Danli to buy basic goods, and try to sell them in an economy, that for all appearances, is hardly functioning. It should be stated clearly that she is open about her circumstance and is honest about her difficulties but she was honorable and resolute. She has a quick wit, and asked me interesting questions about the US. She wonders how many people are farmers. I could only tell her that my family was a family farming and my dad still works in agriculture.
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Surely, this is “the poor”. Right? But who are the children I see out of the corner of my eye as we whiz through pueblo after pueblo, and in the shadows of Tegucigalpa? They raise their heads out of giant dumpsters as we pass by, faces covered in flies. Are they being reached by microfinance? If not, can they be?

And in my journal updates how can I represent the poverty here. Telling one person’s story is satisfying, and its my job, but really its not about one person. Its about a system. I write the details of one person but on re-reading every update they seem flat and one-dimensional. I find myself wanting to highlight poverty for Kiva lenders. Then they can feel like their loan meant something. They can feel they are helping. I feel horrible when on my visits find myself looking for the saddest part of their story. Preserving their dignity is important to me, and I try to stop myself. I do, but its hard. I so badly want to see an extreme transformation that I have to make sure I’m not fabricating it. Progress is so incremental, often non-existent.

Sometimes I have a totally different problem representing the borrowers. Sometimes the borrowers don’t seem nearly as poor. They definitely needed it, accordingly the loan was helpful, but in no way life altering in the Muhammad Yunus sense. This was very true on a recent visit.

I meet many people like Victor, who really make me question the system and the goal of microfinance. He is a former professional football player in Honduras. He played 10 years in the professional soccer leagues of this country and for many teams. I’m told that 10 years ago soccer players didn’t make the money that they do now. Still- this seems to indicate a level of opportunity Doña Reina can only dream of. He now operates his own taxi business. We talk on his outdoor patio while workers finish painting his two-story house a nice new shade of vibrant yellow. His lovely, stylish wife passes through on her way to visit friends, high-heels clicking past my filthy, dusty tennis shoes. He owns his taxi, and his personal car, and needed a loan to fix a broken transmission. This sounds like the kind of debt I have. He supports two children who live in Tegucigalpa while the attend University. As an unpaid Kiva Fellow, with little to no plan about how I’m going to finance my life in the U.S when I return in 5 months, saddled with student loans, I wonder if Victor is actually richer than me. Surely not. Right?

Victor

Victor

Though this doesn’t feel like the microfinance of my imagination, the Victors of Honduras are a crucial cog in the microfinance machine. In order to reach the poorest (assuming that they do) Prisma needs him. Before they are a development organization, they are a bank. Their technical abilities, and sound internal policies make the humanitarian arm of their business more effective. Obviously this is a simple concept, but will Kiva lenders feel emotionally fulfilled when they learn the true details of his life? Is this a breakdown in the system? I want to accurately describe what I see here, really shedding light on the whole system, and thereby foster true understanding. But something about Victor’s loan doesn’t feel like microfinance. Still, it was a small loan, so that counts. Right?

Understanding what poverty looks like here, how microfinance fits, and whether it’s addressing the real causes of poverty, where cultural differences begin and end, how to speak to truth, and where I am in the whole system is hard. I’ll admit freely: right now, I am lost.

Entry Filed under: Honduras, KF6 (Kiva Fellows 6th Class), Prisma Microfinance. Tags: , , , , , , , .

11 Comments Add your own

  • 1. A Thank You « PseudoMemories & VeriDreams  |  12 January 2009 at 00:25

    [...] a very good (in my opinion) blog entry about her experience in Honduras.  Check it out here: http://fellowsblog.kiva.org/2009/01/11/speaking-about-poverty/ Also,  if you haven’t seen Kieran’s video yet, I highly recommend it:  [...]

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  • 2. Thomas  |  12 January 2009 at 07:43

    Thank you for that very honest and open entry.
    I have learned in my life that real progress for people is based on a broad number of little and seemingly insignificant steps, not on the one, gigantic leap. It is like a pyramid. It needs a broad base to support the top.

    Your personal contribution as a KIVA fellow of your time and money is such a basic stones at the bottom of the pyramid. The interest you show in the life of the people you visit will give them even more energy and courage to cope with their life. The loan shows them, that they are not forgotten. You are not responsible for the sad conditions these people may live in, but I am sure you make a difference.

    Please keep up your work and compassion. It helps, even if you may never personally notice.

    :-) Thomas, Switzerland

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  • 3. Jan & John  |  12 January 2009 at 07:54

    Thank you Sierra. At least you are honest with your feelings. You are looking for simple answers in a very complicated world. Don’t stop searching, but don’t stop helping just because it might not be quite the ideal you imagined. Each person has his own worth. And we can only help one person at a time. jan

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  • 4. John Robbins  |  12 January 2009 at 09:54

    Thanks for sharing what you’ve seen in such a balanced way, it’s helpful. But don’t beat yourself up so much. Your job as a Kiva Fellow and my job as a Kiva lender is not to end poverty, it’s to help someone who needs help. Microfinance can be an effective tool in reducing poverty, but poverty doesn’t arise from a lack of microfinance.

    John
    North Carolina

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  • 5. Waywardcats  |  12 January 2009 at 10:54

    Sierra,

    Thanks for your musings. I hope they continue to remind you that lenders like Victor are important and deserving as well. Every dollar that goes into Honduras has the possibility to help someone in poverty. The mechanic who fixed Victor’s car may now have the opportunity to buy more food, or hire help for another day. The money will move through the economy and help to lift it just that little bit further.

    I wish you luck as you finish your fellowship to return home to new challenges. Thank you for sharing your compassion and thoughts with us.

    -Kerry-

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  • 6. Ben Werdmuller » 3 ways to do good on the web  |  13 January 2009 at 13:17

    [...] a book on Amazon or ordering pizza from Domino’s. Kiva fellows blog about their experiences (here’s a recent post about Honduras) and give the impression that the money is being used [...]

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  • 7. Abby  |  14 January 2009 at 04:10

    great post, sierra. i think these issues become clearer and more defined in our minds the more we expose ourselves to the complications of poverty and its relationship to microfinance, even though it might seem overwhelming. at least we are here, grappling with the toughest questions. i’m sure your perspectives on the entire situation are evolving in ways you arent even aware of yet.

    hope youre having some fun there too!

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  • 8. Marla Allen-Kinner  |  20 January 2009 at 14:37

    What a beautiful and thoughtful person you are. Thank you for your honesty and good work.

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  • 9. David Oglaza  |  28 January 2009 at 02:37

    I went teaching English in Nepal with a INGO a few yrs ago and the dilema’s faced are the same.

    When I went to school in Nepal and half the teachers didnt turn up because they had other jobs I used to think what was the point in turning up myself? But it made a difference to the pupils on the day.

    The taxi driving ex-footballers loan also made a difference to him and his family. Without the kiva loan, he would have paid a higher interest rate if he could obtain a loan elsewhere OR he would not have been able to obtain a loan in order to repair the taxi in order to make a living and support his family

    Either way without the kiva loan his family would have been poorer via paying higher interest charges or no loan equals no income as no job.

    Providing Kiva is reducing poverty then this is the magical factor – NOT whether they are reducing poverty at the grassroots level or slightly above it.

    If Sierra was a Fellow at a much poorer recipient then he would not be feeling lost.

    He is not lost – he should feel satisifed that poverty has been reduced – at what ever level it may be!

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  • 10. beatriz scampini  |  16 March 2009 at 15:24

    He visto algo en canal infinito y quisiera saber mas sobre el tema, gracias.

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